Funny. I am a Ford certified Performance Tech at Stevens ford 112 NY. I was actually the First person to Blow up a 10R80! It was in a 2018 Mustang GT track pack, it was my first auto in a mustang. It was brand new with 0 mods. She had less then 500 miles on her. She blew up after I floored it and suddenly one of the gears blew. I had one of the ENGINEERS COME DOWN FROM DETROIT TO FIND OUT WHY IT BLEW. HE TORE DOWN MY ENTIRE DRIVETRAIN AND FOUND OUT THE CLUTCH HAD A SERIOUS DEFECT! ONE I CANT MENTION BECAUSE OF MY EMPLOYEE STATUS HOWEVER EVERYONE OWING A 2019 10R80 CAN THANK ME, This is not a joke.
This is similar to my childhood best friend who purchased one of the first Honda S2000's in my state. He accelerated, not hard but moderately, from a red light at a major intersection. The car dropped and dove to the right, he spun a 180 into a chain link fence next to a Ford dealership front lot. Honda Engineers from Japan flew out to inspect the car. He was the fifth or sixth owner to have a forged real control arm break at random. After his accident they issued the recall and made his car like showroom new again.
@ holy shit I always thought that story was a rumor. I love the S2000’s. Glad he’s alright. Yea my tranny locked up and I went sideways, man I’m telling you if I didn’t have the track pack I deff would’ve crashed
@@prevail14 i had a typo. REAR control arm. Yes, both the arm and the Japan Engineers appearing were both REAL. haha. The only time I had a trans lock up was with a Jeep Liberty that had its torque converter slowly disintegrate at 65mph. You could hear the vanes rubbing the casing before it seized and prevented the fluid pump from turning. Uuups. I was able to put it into neutral and coast to the shoulder, then it locked as I was about to stop. Your incident is way more severe and impressive!
@ haha bro I know exactly what you went through, I had a 91-92 I think, Ford bronco with the Windsor motor, 182K. Original motor but deff rebuilt trans, it was that special “Night edition” bronco, and bro the interior was literally like brand new. It still had that new car smell idk how and it wasn’t an air freshener 😂😂 but yea man it was fun, put 35’s on her and it still ripped from the 3.75 gears. Anyway one day the tranny locked when I was doing 30-35 and the rear locked up till I stoped. I was like 19 maybe, so after I stopped I put it in neutral, put it in four wheel high, switched back to 2 wheel and bam went back to driving. I still have no idea how/why it happened or how the tranny survived 😂. It’s crazy the shit we’ve survived
It was announced a long time ago that both Ford and GM were co-developing the 10 speed trans , each would just have there own specific programming for what ever vehicle it was put into
Had a 2020 F350 dually with that 10 speed. Went south with 28000 miles, bone stock truck. Dealer had it for a month doing Fords song and dance, couldn’t fix the problem. They wanted a new transmission, Ford nope. I called customer service told them what was going on and dealer wants a new transmission, first thing out of their mouth we’re not going to give you a transmission. Said I need this truck for towing and I can’t the way it is. I said guess it looks like a GM or Ram in my future, they said do what you have to do. Rocking a GMC and best thing I did, transmission is so much smoother than that ever was. Runs cooler pulling hills transmission doesn’t go over 150* that Ford ran at over 200* not towing and over 220* towing, you can’t tell me these are the same. I drove Fords for over 35 years, never again. Ford has went down hill from when I started driving them, and so has how they react to warranty. Good luck to those that buy this junk now.
Hey brother I recently caught a video of the 5.0 consuming oil on one of your older videos. planning to buy a 24 or 25 F-150 with a coyote what do you think of the new Motors I prefer the coyote over the EcoBoost what would you do if you were me love your Channel❤
When I did the planetary gear recall on mine I went through and set all of the clutch pack clearances and put on an aluminum pan that I can drain and refill easily. I filled it with Amsoil fluid that I will change every 30k. My transmission shifts like butter and runs cooler.
1400 newton meters is about 1000 ft/lbs. An astute observer might say, "That can't be! The HO powerstroke puts down 1200 ft/lbs at 1600rpm. That's higher than the transmission rating!" And he's right! You see the transmission never sees that much torque. It will always up or downshift before or after 1600rpm at wide open throttle to avoid the engine ever being in an operating range where it is putting out more than 1000 ft/lbs. Sure the engine can rev to 1600rpm but it is off limits at wide open throttle. Blatant false advertising if you ask me. If the engine is never allowed to operate at 1200 ft/lbs than the engine should not be rated that way.
mine was junk from the dealer, hard mystery hard shift 6th to 7th.. they told me, doesnt happen when we drive it. 30k miles and then an $8600 warranty repair. never towed anything with it, no tune.. not even a burnout.
Yup. My dealer did the same thing. Told them 3rd to 4th was really bad in my 10r80. They keep it for 2 weeks (thinking they are fixing it) and proceed to tell me nothing is wrong. So I'm like no way, let me ride with a technician and I'll show you. Sure enough, 3rd to 4th had a really bad pause feeling (supposedly losing line pressure) so they tell me that's normal. But they wanted to keep it longer. I ask them "are y'all messing with me? Are y'all trying to give me the run around?" They said no we aren't. I'm like give me my key fuck it. So I went home , changed the fluid, changed the filter, put a new transmission pan on it and honestly, I put Ford's tune on it. And if I'm easy on it at start up (even after letting it idle for a while to warm up) it's fine and stays fine. Fuck the dealer they're out to fuck you not help you.
@@prevail14 so it's a defective clutch? I mean what causes the 10r80 to feel like it just completely shuts off between 3rd and 4th and comes back like nothing happens? I've heard either it's the CDF drum, or the valve body sticking.
@ good thing my job/10R80 Engineers doesn’t know my RUclips account. YES the clutch sticks, defeating the transmission to switch to 4th gear….. HOWEVER Ford and GM has “fixed” this issue for the most part. Obviously everyone knows 3rd gear really stretches before it shifts to 4th. Which is fine but the dual clutch has a delay. Normal driving is fine but when flooring it especially in “Track/Sport” Mode will make 3rd gear a long haul before 4th, right before it shifts to 4th is when things get a little defective. BUT, I must say ford has fixed this issue for the most part with a different tune from the 2018-2019’s into the 2020’s! Ford change clutches and the factory tune. Basically you should’ve have any issues if you own a LATE 2019 TO PRESENT!! Unless you beat on it 24/7 then well any transmission will give up. I switched back to a manual 2019 with my 3.0 whippel from ford! And I make 760HP, I didn’t go the route for the 810HP. There’s little difference between the stages. I honestly from my personal experience and mechanical experience believe the manual is stronger then the 10 speed. But don’t get me wrong the Auto is strong, but having a manual FORD had no choice in beefing up its internals in order to give customers that factory warranty with the ford performance supercharger!
@prevail2983 wow dude. Thanks so much for explaining that. That means a whole lot. So what do you recommend me doing with mine? What clutch pack should I get or what else should I do to it... ? Love my truck and don't want to give up on it :/ I appreciate the information again man foreal!!!!!
An old timer named a super low to super high manual tranny in behind a Chevy. This was bought up by a truck driver who had no problem figuring out the advantages. With those old things you were a busy person. Just remember if you press it, you’ll blow the ease of shift, or the ability to stay in gear. Thank you. .
Guys, the 10 speed was not a joint venture. GM and Ford did not work hand in hand making it. Ford made the 10 speed in exchange for GMs 9 speed fwd transmission. Ford didnt like the 9 speed and made it into a 8 speed and GM later followed this change
If these are pretty robust transmissions, as claimed in the video, and they offer better performance and much better fuel economy than your dad's C6 while withstanding over 1,000 ft-lbs of torque, why would we be complaining about the emissions laws that drove these into the marketplace?
@bertwilson4311 because some people will literally. I mean literally use any excuse to whine about emissions causing every issue on a truck including why it gave them a stubbed toe. They then delete the entire thing and then whine when regulations get tighter and wonder why as if they didn't trigger those regulations. And all the while business like mine suffer and lose more money and have to jump through more hoops to maintain our fleet to emissions standards. And the funniest thing of all. Most mechanics who work on emissions related issues literally say roughly 80% of them are caused by excessive idling. So it's not even an emissions issue Most of the time. It's a driver issue.
@@danielmorris-ruckett913 All the emissions standards were put into place long before deleting was even a thing. It just took many years for the strictest requirements to kick in. So the strict standards were coming whether or not guys deleted emissions equipment, it was just a matter of time.
@blythkd9017 The selective catalytic reduction system wasn't implemented widely till 2010. The dpf was done in 2007. Deleting had been done long before the early 2000s. Primarily as a means to gain performance. It became widespread in the late 2000s particularly in 2008 during the years start of the economic crisis most often in diesel trucks. So no deleting has been around for quite some time.
@@ToddAdams1234 seriously all manual. I had a 93 GT, 2014 GT, 2015 GT, 2018 GT(only auto 10 speed I tried) and now my 2019 GT with a 3.0 supercharger making 760
$6-7K for a new trans vs $5.5 -6 for a rebuild. No brainer get the new transmission for the difference in price. You know that yours went bad, you don't know if something was missed in the rebuild some little piece of metal or clutch pack hiding somewhere where it was missed. I would assume that the warranty would be better on a new trans also.
Everything you say in this video supports/verifies what I've been able to find via research. My issue/concern is related to some of the GM 10 speeds in 2020-22,23 years having bad issues. What are the issues - and have they fixed these issues? I ask this because I'm on the cusp of ordering a 2025 AT4X HD next month...
Totally off subject on trans but what u think about the 2.3l motor in the new broncos. I got one just to be little different because everyone has the 2.7l.
If the 10l1000 gm and the 10l140 are the same, why does the ford have a 40c deg hotter oil temp, and is the recall the same in the ford that GM just released?
My guess would be a different fluid heat exchanger and or different programming. Is the torque converter the same between the two? I doubt it, the 6.6, 6.7, 6.7HO are 3 very different torque profiles.
Sounds to me like for a few hundred dollars more, may as well get a new one. Time to specialize in these at an independent shop and make them worth rebuilding.
What do you think about the 10R60? Have you seen the same problems as the 10R80 and 10R140? Do you think it can hold up to the power that the Ranger Raptor and Bronco Raptor are putting out? Asking as an owner of a 10R60.
Although theyre similar there is some notable differences and the "Allison" is built to take less punishment. You can watch the comparison on Randys transmissions
This is misinformation again. These are junk and don't usually make it 100k. If you want to make it last change your fluid every 35k miles. You are better off with an older truck with the 6r140.
I "WAS" Subscribed to this Channel a while ago, I had Asked "MAYSON" a couple questions on my BRAND NEW 22 F-150 and NEVER got an answer / Response???? So, I unsubscribe!! I just came back to see if "ANYTHING" is happening. And I still see the 10R80 is having ISSUES??? I had asked B 4 and I'll ask again, Have YOU "MAYSON" ever herd of a Company called "NextGen" ???? They seemingly so they say have this 10R80 / 140 Problem resolved with their Tranny FIX'S????? Hey "MAYSON" Can ya Respond??? Please...
Wrong. Ford built the 10 speed in exchange for GMs 9 speed fwd transmission that ended up being a bad design and Ford turned into a 8 speed and GM later followed suit. And you'd know that if you actually researched it and quit flagging my comments
@@johnhahn8464 because they don’t do anything to actually address climate change but only act to limit our access to cheap, reliable transportation. They’d rather limit every day people’s “emissions” than implement super low emission powerplants like nuclear energy or punishing countries like India and China for their massive emissions
@@Nudnik1 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 same fuel milage as what? 454 and fuel mileage don't even belong in the same sentence! You can't be serious 😒 your lucky to get 4 mpgs when towing
@ this along with the stupid cylinder deactivation makes for a very miserable driving experience especially when aftermarket exhausts are thrown into the mix.
@@Mcfly0856 My Mustang has a Corsa kit on it and I keep it in S so it stays going gear by gear and not skipping. Once the car gets tuned it does that be default. I don’t know why Ford put deactivation on the F150’s either it does no good on a Coyote since it’s already efficient.
Had a 2020 F350 dually with that 10 speed. Went south with 28000 miles, bone stock truck. Dealer had it for a month doing Fords song and dance, couldn’t fix the problem. They wanted a new transmission, Ford nope. I called customer service told them what was going on and dealer wants a new transmission, first thing out of their mouth we’re not going to give you a transmission. Said I need this truck for towing and I can’t the way it is. I said guess it looks like a GM or Ram in my future, they said do what you have to do. Rocking a GMC and best thing I did, transmission is so much smoother than that ever was. Runs cooler pulling hills transmission doesn’t go over 150* that Ford ran at over 200* not towing and over 220* towing, you can’t tell me these are the same. I drove Fords for over 35 years, never again. Ford has went down hill from when I started driving them, and so has how they react to warranty. Good luck to those that buy this junk now.
Funny. I am a Ford certified Performance Tech at Stevens ford 112 NY. I was actually the First person to Blow up a 10R80! It was in a 2018 Mustang GT track pack, it was my first auto in a mustang. It was brand new with 0 mods. She had less then 500 miles on her. She blew up after I floored it and suddenly one of the gears blew. I had one of the ENGINEERS COME DOWN FROM DETROIT TO FIND OUT WHY IT BLEW. HE TORE DOWN MY ENTIRE DRIVETRAIN AND FOUND OUT THE CLUTCH HAD A SERIOUS DEFECT! ONE I CANT MENTION BECAUSE OF MY EMPLOYEE STATUS HOWEVER EVERYONE OWING A 2019 10R80 CAN THANK ME, This is not a joke.
This is similar to my childhood best friend who purchased one of the first Honda S2000's in my state. He accelerated, not hard but moderately, from a red light at a major intersection. The car dropped and dove to the right, he spun a 180 into a chain link fence next to a Ford dealership front lot. Honda Engineers from Japan flew out to inspect the car. He was the fifth or sixth owner to have a forged real control arm break at random. After his accident they issued the recall and made his car like showroom new again.
@ holy shit I always thought that story was a rumor. I love the S2000’s. Glad he’s alright.
Yea my tranny locked up and I went sideways, man I’m telling you if I didn’t have the track pack I deff would’ve crashed
@@prevail14 i had a typo. REAR control arm. Yes, both the arm and the Japan Engineers appearing were both REAL. haha. The only time I had a trans lock up was with a Jeep Liberty that had its torque converter slowly disintegrate at 65mph. You could hear the vanes rubbing the casing before it seized and prevented the fluid pump from turning. Uuups. I was able to put it into neutral and coast to the shoulder, then it locked as I was about to stop. Your incident is way more severe and impressive!
@ haha bro I know exactly what you went through, I had a 91-92 I think, Ford bronco with the Windsor motor, 182K. Original motor but deff rebuilt trans, it was that special “Night edition” bronco, and bro the interior was literally like brand new. It still had that new car smell idk how and it wasn’t an air freshener 😂😂 but yea man it was fun, put 35’s on her and it still ripped from the 3.75 gears. Anyway one day the tranny locked when I was doing 30-35 and the rear locked up till I stoped. I was like 19 maybe, so after I stopped I put it in neutral, put it in four wheel high, switched back to 2 wheel and bam went back to driving. I still have no idea how/why it happened or how the tranny survived 😂. It’s crazy the shit we’ve survived
@@pgmurray76what recall is this if you know by chance? My time at Honda I don’t ever remember that recall for s2K
Try telling these folks that their “new Allison” is not an Allison. Oh boy do they get mad
😂😂classic! I need to start doing that! It's like the toyoat fansbois tearing up about the toyota junk!
It’s my new life goal. I wait outside stores next to random rams now. 😂😂😂
Tell them their Duramax is just an Isuzu engine
@@crisjr6478rams don’t have Alison’s that’s gmc Chevy we have the shitty 68rfe which is just garbage
@@Justthemow that was the joke lol they’ll say the Allison’s junk and jump in the ram that’s on its 3rd tranny 🤣
It was announced a long time ago that both Ford and GM were co-developing the 10 speed trans , each would just have there own specific programming for what ever vehicle it was put into
I have a 5 speed allison built by yours truly and I love it
I am with you, it drives me nuts when they call this transmission an Allison..... I don't know why it bothers me but it does. Great video
Would like to know differences between 10r100 and 10r140
Love this channel, keep up the good work and good info!
Had a 2020 F350 dually with that 10 speed. Went south with 28000 miles, bone stock truck. Dealer had it for a month doing Fords song and dance, couldn’t fix the problem. They wanted a new transmission, Ford nope.
I called customer service told them what was going on and dealer wants a new transmission, first thing out of their mouth we’re not going to give you a transmission. Said I need this truck for towing and I can’t the way it is. I said guess it looks like a GM or Ram in my future, they said do what you have to do. Rocking a GMC and best thing I did, transmission is so much smoother than that ever was. Runs cooler pulling hills transmission doesn’t go over 150* that Ford ran at over 200* not towing and over 220* towing, you can’t tell me these are the same.
I drove Fords for over 35 years, never again.
Ford has went down hill from when I started driving them, and so has how they react to warranty.
Good luck to those that buy this junk now.
Their are rebuild kits out for their for this transmission fuck ford's service gonna sell some shit and tell you to fuck yourself when it breaks
Good to know. I've driven Ford diesels for almost 18 years. Headed to a GMC AT4X HD
Good luck at work 2 of the 3 gm hd diesels at my work are at the garage waiting for transmission repair
@@donsmith3038 good luck with that at my work 66% of the Gm Hd diesel are in the garage for transmission repairs
Hey brother I recently caught a video of the 5.0 consuming oil on one of your older videos. planning to buy a 24 or 25 F-150 with a coyote what do you think of the new Motors I prefer the coyote over the EcoBoost what would you do if you were me love your Channel❤
When I did the planetary gear recall on mine I went through and set all of the clutch pack clearances and put on an aluminum pan that I can drain and refill easily. I filled it with Amsoil fluid that I will change every 30k. My transmission shifts like butter and runs cooler.
1400 newton meters is about 1000 ft/lbs. An astute observer might say, "That can't be! The HO powerstroke puts down 1200 ft/lbs at 1600rpm. That's higher than the transmission rating!" And he's right! You see the transmission never sees that much torque. It will always up or downshift before or after 1600rpm at wide open throttle to avoid the engine ever being in an operating range where it is putting out more than 1000 ft/lbs. Sure the engine can rev to 1600rpm but it is off limits at wide open throttle. Blatant false advertising if you ask me. If the engine is never allowed to operate at 1200 ft/lbs than the engine should not be rated that way.
Truth.
mine was junk from the dealer, hard mystery hard shift 6th to 7th.. they told me, doesnt happen when we drive it. 30k miles and then an $8600 warranty repair. never towed anything with it, no tune.. not even a burnout.
Yup. My dealer did the same thing. Told them 3rd to 4th was really bad in my 10r80. They keep it for 2 weeks (thinking they are fixing it) and proceed to tell me nothing is wrong. So I'm like no way, let me ride with a technician and I'll show you. Sure enough, 3rd to 4th had a really bad pause feeling (supposedly losing line pressure) so they tell me that's normal. But they wanted to keep it longer. I ask them "are y'all messing with me? Are y'all trying to give me the run around?" They said no we aren't. I'm like give me my key fuck it. So I went home , changed the fluid, changed the filter, put a new transmission pan on it and honestly, I put Ford's tune on it. And if I'm easy on it at start up (even after letting it idle for a while to warm up) it's fine and stays fine. Fuck the dealer they're out to fuck you not help you.
Read my comment lol
@@prevail14 so it's a defective clutch? I mean what causes the 10r80 to feel like it just completely shuts off between 3rd and 4th and comes back like nothing happens? I've heard either it's the CDF drum, or the valve body sticking.
@ good thing my job/10R80 Engineers doesn’t know my RUclips account. YES the clutch sticks, defeating the transmission to switch to 4th gear….. HOWEVER Ford and GM has “fixed” this issue for the most part. Obviously everyone knows 3rd gear really stretches before it shifts to 4th. Which is fine but the dual clutch has a delay.
Normal driving is fine but when flooring it especially in “Track/Sport” Mode will make 3rd gear a long haul before 4th, right before it shifts to 4th is when things get a little defective.
BUT, I must say ford has fixed this issue for the most part with a different tune from the 2018-2019’s into the 2020’s! Ford change clutches and the factory tune. Basically you should’ve have any issues if you own a LATE 2019 TO PRESENT!! Unless you beat on it 24/7 then well any transmission will give up.
I switched back to a manual 2019 with my 3.0 whippel from ford! And I make 760HP, I didn’t go the route for the 810HP. There’s little difference between the stages. I honestly from my personal experience and mechanical experience believe the manual is stronger then the 10 speed. But don’t get me wrong the Auto is strong, but having a manual FORD had no choice in beefing up its internals in order to give customers that factory warranty with the ford performance supercharger!
@prevail2983 wow dude. Thanks so much for explaining that. That means a whole lot. So what do you recommend me doing with mine? What clutch pack should I get or what else should I do to it... ? Love my truck and don't want to give up on it :/ I appreciate the information again man foreal!!!!!
An old timer named a super low to super high manual tranny in behind a Chevy. This was bought up by a truck driver who had no problem figuring out the advantages. With those old things you were a busy person. Just remember if you press it, you’ll blow the ease of shift, or the ability to stay in gear. Thank you.
.
I have no idea wtf you just wrote.
@ it was supposed to say “married” . I think what the tranny was a 7 speed Munci.
Guys, the 10 speed was not a joint venture. GM and Ford did not work hand in hand making it. Ford made the 10 speed in exchange for GMs 9 speed fwd transmission. Ford didnt like the 9 speed and made it into a 8 speed and GM later followed this change
Took the words out of my mouth...
@@71boss39 Still Junk
Oh so gm and ford never really worked together so the 10L1000 was a gm construction by itself
@@fireflyraven2760No. The 10L1000 is the same as the 10R140. I believe only the bellhousing case is different.
Everyone complains about these new unreliable transmissions but never the emissions laws that create them in the first place!
If these are pretty robust transmissions, as claimed in the video, and they offer better performance and much better fuel economy than your dad's C6 while withstanding over 1,000 ft-lbs of torque, why would we be complaining about the emissions laws that drove these into the marketplace?
@bertwilson4311 because some people will literally. I mean literally use any excuse to whine about emissions causing every issue on a truck including why it gave them a stubbed toe. They then delete the entire thing and then whine when regulations get tighter and wonder why as if they didn't trigger those regulations. And all the while business like mine suffer and lose more money and have to jump through more hoops to maintain our fleet to emissions standards.
And the funniest thing of all. Most mechanics who work on emissions related issues literally say roughly 80% of them are caused by excessive idling.
So it's not even an emissions issue Most of the time. It's a driver issue.
@@danielmorris-ruckett913 All the emissions standards were put into place long before deleting was even a thing. It just took many years for the strictest requirements to kick in. So the strict standards were coming whether or not guys deleted emissions equipment, it was just a matter of time.
@blythkd9017 The selective catalytic reduction system wasn't implemented widely till 2010. The dpf was done in 2007. Deleting had been done long before the early 2000s. Primarily as a means to gain performance. It became widespread in the late 2000s
particularly in 2008 during the years start of the economic crisis most often in diesel trucks.
So no deleting has been around for quite some time.
6r140 is better! Mine had 332,000 miles on an f550 14,000 pounds and never changed the fluid before it needed to be replaced
I LONG for the days of manual transmissions. 😢
I bought the last year. Ram
Me too
Go back to 1940.
Good lord I don’t
@@ToddAdams1234 seriously all manual. I had a 93 GT, 2014 GT, 2015 GT, 2018 GT(only auto 10 speed I tried) and now my 2019 GT with a 3.0 supercharger making 760
Thanks for the video
Excellent Share! ✊🏼💯
Can you please do a video on the new 5.0 cylinder deactivation?
$6-7K for a new trans vs $5.5 -6 for a rebuild. No brainer get the new transmission for the difference in price. You know that yours went bad, you don't know if something was missed in the rebuild some little piece of metal or clutch pack hiding somewhere where it was missed. I would assume that the warranty would be better on a new trans also.
Thank you, great one.
My 10R140 failed around 150,000 miles, no mods on the truck at all. Now I’ve got a suncoast category 2
Gas or diesel?
Diesel
@@joeymt3 thanks. Just wondering cause I’m coming up on 141k miles with my 7.3.
@@BigDaddyAddyMS How many 7.3 motors did it take to make it to 141k
@@TomTom-gt5ff still the original. 😂
Nice torque wrench. Didn’t know they made battery powered ones
Everything you say in this video supports/verifies what I've been able to find via research. My issue/concern is related to some of the GM 10 speeds in 2020-22,23 years having bad issues. What are the issues - and have they fixed these issues? I ask this because I'm on the cusp of ordering a 2025 AT4X HD next month...
What can I do to beef up my 10R80 in
My ‘19 F-150? TIA
Midnight Performance built 10r80.
Add beef.
@@user-ln7of9gs4s 😂 Touché
@@169abr Where r they located?
@@americanmutt7629 Texas
Totally off subject on trans but what u think about the 2.3l motor in the new broncos. I got one just to be little different because everyone has the 2.7l.
Great video
If the 10l1000 gm and the 10l140 are the same, why does the ford have a 40c deg hotter oil temp, and is the recall the same in the ford that GM just released?
My guess would be a different fluid heat exchanger and or different programming. Is the torque converter the same between the two? I doubt it, the 6.6, 6.7, 6.7HO are 3 very different torque profiles.
And remember guys NEVER use a Torque Wrench on a valve body.
Im sure they used a torque wrench.
Sounds to me like for a few hundred dollars more, may as well get a new one.
Time to specialize in these at an independent shop and make them worth rebuilding.
What do you think about the 10R60? Have you seen the same problems as the 10R80 and 10R140? Do you think it can hold up to the power that the Ranger Raptor and Bronco Raptor are putting out? Asking as an owner of a 10R60.
If I have to reset KAM monthly to keep it from acting really weirdly, you need to fix your 10R programming Ford.
HAH!!! Did he just say” go to the dealership “?!?!? Our local dealership doesn’t even work on them!!!
ONCE AGAIN......... I'am Outta Here!!!! SEE YA...... 🤷♂🤷♂😰.......
"Allison" is a sticker on that 10 speed. The LCT1000 is 10X the transmission that pos 10 speed..
Although theyre similar there is some notable differences and the "Allison" is built to take less punishment. You can watch the comparison on Randys transmissions
I’ve heard the 10L80s are slipping a crap ton. Almost all of the local deputies have been having issues with them
yea with the way they drive those things
Slip is inherit with these, seems like that’s how they get the smoother shifts in the programming.
@@TheLawlessGanghow much would you say a crap ton is exactly? I've always wondered 🤔
@@johnhahn8464 Less than a shit load... a shit load can have multiple crap tons in it, all depending on how big is the box.
The 10R140 was absolute garbage in my 2020 SD.
Mercedes.
This is misinformation again. These are junk and don't usually make it 100k. If you want to make it last change your fluid every 35k miles. You are better off with an older truck with the 6r140.
You will own nothing.. Leasing is a smart deal with all the crap make today
They are Junk! Don't care who's name you put on it- 10 speed pile of crap-JUNK period.
I "WAS" Subscribed to this Channel a while ago, I had Asked "MAYSON" a couple questions on my BRAND NEW 22 F-150 and NEVER got an answer / Response???? So, I unsubscribe!! I just came back to see if "ANYTHING" is happening. And I still see the 10R80 is having ISSUES??? I had asked B 4 and I'll ask again, Have YOU "MAYSON" ever herd of a Company called "NextGen" ???? They seemingly so they say have this 10R80 / 140 Problem resolved with their Tranny FIX'S????? Hey "MAYSON" Can ya Respond??? Please...
Not built by Ford it was a joint venture and they have their differences
Wrong. Ford built the 10 speed in exchange for GMs 9 speed fwd transmission that ended up being a bad design and Ford turned into a 8 speed and GM later followed suit. And you'd know that if you actually researched it and quit flagging my comments
@ wrong…. The FWD 8/9spd was also a joint venture. Same trans just different programming.
@@airratchetjockey7605 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford%E2%80%93GM_10-speed_automatic_transmission
What's the last sentence say of the first paragraph?
@@airratchetjockey7605 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford%E2%80%93GM_10-speed_automatic_transmission
First paragraph. Last sentence
Absurd to have 10 speed pickup truck trans... silly
Just as silly as these damn emissions laws!
Why?
@@johnhahn8464 because they don’t do anything to actually address climate change but only act to limit our access to cheap, reliable transportation. They’d rather limit every day people’s “emissions” than implement super low emission powerplants like nuclear energy or punishing countries like India and China for their massive emissions
@johnhahn8464 no need . I hauled heavy equipment with Chevy 454 3speed T400 for years .
Same fuel milage cheap easy to fix reliable.
@@Nudnik1 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 same fuel milage as what? 454 and fuel mileage don't even belong in the same sentence! You can't be serious 😒 your lucky to get 4 mpgs when towing
Their all junk, Ford's programing is so bad with the 10r80!
Even tuned 10R’s have the same issues, Ford did something very wrong.
@ this along with the stupid cylinder deactivation makes for a very miserable driving experience especially when aftermarket exhausts are thrown into the mix.
@@Mcfly0856 My Mustang has a Corsa kit on it and I keep it in S so it stays going gear by gear and not skipping. Once the car gets tuned it does that be default. I don’t know why Ford put deactivation on the F150’s either it does no good on a Coyote since it’s already efficient.
@@169abr yeah I do the same thing but then the adaptive tables start learning weird shit when you’re just driving in normal mode 🤦♂️
@@Mcfly0856mines be wonderful! Just run it in sport mode and it deactivates cylinder deactivation
Had a 2020 F350 dually with that 10 speed. Went south with 28000 miles, bone stock truck. Dealer had it for a month doing Fords song and dance, couldn’t fix the problem. They wanted a new transmission, Ford nope.
I called customer service told them what was going on and dealer wants a new transmission, first thing out of their mouth we’re not going to give you a transmission. Said I need this truck for towing and I can’t the way it is. I said guess it looks like a GM or Ram in my future, they said do what you have to do. Rocking a GMC and best thing I did, transmission is so much smoother than that ever was. Runs cooler pulling hills transmission doesn’t go over 150* that Ford ran at over 200* not towing and over 220* towing, you can’t tell me these are the same.
I drove Fords for over 35 years, never again.
Ford has went down hill from when I started driving them, and so has how they react to warranty.
Good luck to those that buy this junk now.